kdebluetooth is dead in fedora 7..

[Thomas Davis]

I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.

Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.

Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Now, I need to see if KDE4 has any bluetooth support in it..

thomas

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Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Yep, we're trying to sort that out in the existing kdebluetooth package
review for Fedora.

Post by Thomas Davis
Now, I need to see if KDE4 has any bluetooth support in it..

kde4's kdebluetooth will have full dbus support.

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Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Yep, we're trying to sort that out in the existing kdebluetooth package
review for Fedora.

http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration/

Interesting. Time to check it out and see if it works any..

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Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...
Now, I need to see if KDE4 has any bluetooth support in it..
thomas

I'm leading an (failing?) attempt to try and get kdebluetooth ready for
F7. [1]
I've already issued a patch [2] to bluez-utils that works just retains
the old pin-helper behavior .
Once the patch get approved, I see no reason why kdebluetooth can't be
included in F7 (during F7's life time).

- Gilboa
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235203
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=236531



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[MartinG]

Not sure if it is of any relevance, but I had to use the GNOME
application 'bluetooth-properties' (from within 'bluetooth-applet' i
think) to make kbluetoothd work in FC6. See
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137647

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Post by MartinG
Not sure if it is of any relevance, but I had to use the GNOME
application 'bluetooth-properties' (from within 'bluetooth-applet' i
think) to make kbluetoothd work in FC6. See
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137647

Known issue... kdebluetooth is a bit... err... problematic.
However, problematic or not, it is required if you want to integrate BT
devices with your KDE desktop... (E.g. transfer files)

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[Eli Wapniarski]

The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into  
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong  
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your  
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.

Eli

Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by MartinG
Not sure if it is of any relevance, but I had to use the GNOME
application 'bluetooth-properties' (from within 'bluetooth-applet' i
think) to make kbluetoothd work in FC6. See
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137647

Known issue... kdebluetooth is a bit... err... problematic.
However, problematic or not, it is required if you want to integrate BT
devices with your KDE desktop... (E.g. transfer files)
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[Eli Wapniarski]

The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into  
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong  
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your  
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.

Eli

Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by MartinG
Not sure if it is of any relevance, but I had to use the GNOME
application 'bluetooth-properties' (from within 'bluetooth-applet' i
think) to make kbluetoothd work in FC6. See
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137647

Known issue... kdebluetooth is a bit... err... problematic.
However, problematic or not, it is required if you want to integrate BT
devices with your KDE desktop... (E.g. transfer files)
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[Thomas Davis]

Fedora Core 5 suffers from this location problem too..

thomas

Post by Eli Wapniarski
The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.
Eli

Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by MartinG
Not sure if it is of any relevance, but I had to use the GNOME
application 'bluetooth-properties' (from within 'bluetooth-applet' i
think) to make kbluetoothd work in FC6. See
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137647

Known issue... kdebluetooth is a bit... err... problematic.
However, problematic or not, it is required if you want to integrate BT
devices with your KDE desktop... (E.g. transfer files)
- Gilboa.
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Post by Eli Wapniarski
The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.
Eli

Eli,

I'm unaware of this problem. (Too busy trying to implement
kdepin-dbus-wrapper.)
Can you please elaborate on the problem and the solution?

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[Eli Wapniarski]

Let see..

After configuring bluez properly to talk with the bluetooth device on your
computer, right click on kdebluetooth icon on the system tray. Then,
Configuration and then paired devices. Then you click on the link
labeled "File Location" in the window that pops up. You will notice beside
the field labled "Link key file:" That kdebluetooth is looking for the file
under /etc/bluetooth. For FC, that's wrong. The file should be
under /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your device". As I indicated before,
once you select the correct location, everything is fine.

Eli

Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by Eli Wapniarski
The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.
Eli

Eli,
I'm unaware of this problem. (Too busy trying to implement
kdepin-dbus-wrapper.)
Can you please elaborate on the problem and the solution?
- Gilboa
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[Thomas Davis]

Ug.

I just checked on fedora core 5; the link_key file format does not fit what kcm_btpaired is looking for. The version of bluez is:

bluez-libs-2.25-1
bluez-libs-devel-2.25-1
bluez-pin-0.30-2
bluez-utils-2.25-4
kdebluetooth-1.0-0.17.beta2.fc5
kdebluetooth-devel-1.0-0.17.beta2.fc5

I know this isn't fedora 7, so I pulled down the last sources from the rawhide repo, and checked.

That version is the same as the fedora core 5 version, so that area is broken too.

also, root privileges are needed to read the link_key file in /var/lib/bluetooth/xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx/ directory.

Gilboa, I'll be willing to try and review some of the spec file stuff if you want..

thomas

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Let see..
After configuring bluez properly to talk with the bluetooth device on your
computer, right click on kdebluetooth icon on the system tray. Then,
Configuration and then paired devices. Then you click on the link
labeled "File Location" in the window that pops up. You will notice beside
the field labled "Link key file:" That kdebluetooth is looking for the file
under /etc/bluetooth. For FC, that's wrong. The file should be
under /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your device". As I indicated before,
once you select the correct location, everything is fine.
Eli

Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by Eli Wapniarski
The problem here, is that kdebluetooth does not take FC defaults into
consideration. Kdebluetooth asks for the key location in the wrong
place. They happen to be in /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your
device". Once you tell kdebluetooth to look there, all is well.
Eli

Eli,
I'm unaware of this problem. (Too busy trying to implement
kdepin-dbus-wrapper.)
Can you please elaborate on the problem and the solution?
- Gilboa
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Post by Thomas Davis
Ug.
bluez-libs-2.25-1
bluez-libs-devel-2.25-1
bluez-pin-0.30-2
bluez-utils-2.25-4
kdebluetooth-1.0-0.17.beta2.fc5
kdebluetooth-devel-1.0-0.17.beta2.fc5
I know this isn't fedora 7, so I pulled down the last sources from the rawhide repo, and checked.
That version is the same as the fedora core 5 version, so that area is broken too.
also, root privileges are needed to read the link_key file in /var/lib/bluetooth/xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx/ directory.
Gilboa, I'll be willing to try and review some of the spec file stuff if you want..
thomas

Thomas,

Thanks. I'll appreciate the help. Can you be the official reviewer?
The kdebluetooth BZ is #235203.
I'm planning to release a new updated SRPM ASAP. (Hopefully this
week-end, with a -working- kdepin wrapper)


- Gilboa
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Post by Gilboa Davara
Thomas,
Thanks. I'll appreciate the help. Can you be the official reviewer?
The kdebluetooth BZ is #235203.
I'm planning to release a new updated SRPM ASAP. (Hopefully this
week-end, with a -working- kdepin wrapper)
- Gilboa
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235203

I'm not 100% sure how to do that.. :D Anyone give me clues, and I'll
see what I can do.

I need a working kdebluetooth and KMobiletools. I was planning on moving
to Fedora 7, based on the old Star Trek movie mantra - "Even number movies
don't suck!", well, I found there is almost an equal Fedora mantra - "Odd
number Fedora releases don't suck!".

thomas

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Post by Eli Wapniarski
Let see..
After configuring bluez properly to talk with the bluetooth device on your
computer, right click on kdebluetooth icon on the system tray. Then,
Configuration and then paired devices. Then you click on the link
labeled "File Location" in the window that pops up. You will notice beside
the field labled "Link key file:" That kdebluetooth is looking for the file
under /etc/bluetooth. For FC, that's wrong. The file should be
under /var/lib/bluetooth/"mac address of your device". As I indicated before,
once you select the correct location, everything is fine.
Eli

Eli,

Thanks.
I'll look it up and post a fixed SRPM ASAP.

- Gilboa


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[Thomas Davis]

Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Ah ha!

SUSE has a fixed version. :)

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/src/kdebluetooth-0.99.0svn576598-70.src.rpm

Ok, they have some patches in it to fix some of the stuff.

Back to the grind stone I go..

thomas

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Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Well, I have a patched version of kdebluetooth-beta2 with SuSE's dbus
pin helper (no changes to bluez needed) working with FC7.. It does have
a few problems in that you have to use the gnome-bluetooth utility to
make the machine visible, so I'll dig around and see what is wrong.

If you want to help test, send email and I'll send RPM's to try.

thomas

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Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Well, I have a patched version of kdebluetooth-beta2 with SuSE's dbus
pin helper (no changes to bluez needed) working with FC7.. It does have
a few problems in that you have to use the gnome-bluetooth utility to
make the machine visible, so I'll dig around and see what is wrong.
If you want to help test, send email and I'll send RPM's to try.
thomas

Hello Thomas,

I'm still struggling to get kdebluetooth into F7.
In the last couple of days (I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days) I had a short chat with the original patch author from
SUSE who is willing to support it, if-and-when I get the DBUS patch into
Fedora.
As a second option I've coded a small generic dbus-wrapper for Fedora
that can be used if all goes well.

Anyways, now that I'm back, I'll try to get the patch integrated into
the Fedora RPM and get it tested.
Hopefully, I can finally get this piece of software submitted into the
main-line tree.

... However, if you find a solution to the visibility problem, please
let me know.

- Gilboa



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Post by Gilboa Davara
(I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days)

Congratulations Gllboa. Its great hearing happy news for a change.

Eli
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Post by Eli Wapniarski

Post by Gilboa Davara
(I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days)

Congratulations Gllboa. Its great hearing happy news for a change.
Eli

Thanks ;)

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Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Well, I have a patched version of kdebluetooth-beta2 with SuSE's dbus
pin helper (no changes to bluez needed) working with FC7.. It does have
a few problems in that you have to use the gnome-bluetooth utility to
make the machine visible, so I'll dig around and see what is wrong.
If you want to help test, send email and I'll send RPM's to try.
thomas

Hello Thomas,
I'm still struggling to get kdebluetooth into F7.
In the last couple of days (I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days) I had a short chat with the original patch author from
SUSE who is willing to support it, if-and-when I get the DBUS patch into
Fedora.
As a second option I've coded a small generic dbus-wrapper for Fedora
that can be used if all goes well.
Anyways, now that I'm back, I'll try to get the patch integrated into
the Fedora RPM and get it tested.
Hopefully, I can finally get this piece of software submitted into the
main-line tree.

The SuSE patch does not go in effortlessly..

There are a few little things that have to be fixed, and then you have
force a re-gen of the Makefiles to get it to compile.

I also had no luck getting kitchensync stuff to work, so that is
disabled out right.

I can send the fixed patches, and the spec file I used to build a
working RPM set if you wish to see what I did.

Congrats on getting married!

thomas

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Post by Gilboa Davara
I'm still struggling to get kdebluetooth into F7.
In the last couple of days (I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days)

Congrats! Take all the days you want... :)

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Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Thomas Davis
I've been playing with bluetooth in fedora 7 test 4 (after fighting with
ahci on a sony laptop), and was wondering about the kde version.
Well, they went full out dbus in the bluetooth hcid, so kdebluetooth
compiles, loads, but simply can't talk to the hcid properly, for anything.
Which breaks kdebluetooth until dbus support is added...

Well, I have a patched version of kdebluetooth-beta2 with SuSE's dbus
pin helper (no changes to bluez needed) working with FC7.. It does have
a few problems in that you have to use the gnome-bluetooth utility to
make the machine visible, so I'll dig around and see what is wrong.
If you want to help test, send email and I'll send RPM's to try.
thomas

Hello Thomas,
I'm still struggling to get kdebluetooth into F7.
In the last couple of days (I just got married, so I was AFK for a
couple of days) I had a short chat with the original patch author from
SUSE who is willing to support it, if-and-when I get the DBUS patch into
Fedora.
As a second option I've coded a small generic dbus-wrapper for Fedora
that can be used if all goes well.
Anyways, now that I'm back, I'll try to get the patch integrated into
the Fedora RPM and get it tested.
Hopefully, I can finally get this piece of software submitted into the
main-line tree.
... However, if you find a solution to the visibility problem, please
let me know.

This is the patches I used from the SuSE, and the with re-diffing to
kdebluetooth-beta2. I also had to do some work in the spec file, to get
it to do the right thing.

Thanks! I was about to do the same (get the patch to work) when I saw
you response.
I'll give it a test run (against the -extras spec file) and see if it
works.

- Gilboa


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hi,

now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.

i have build it via sources and it works fine.

more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/

regards,
patrick

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Post by Patrick Steiner
hi,
now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.
i have build it via sources and it works fine.
more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/
regards,
patrick

Saw it.
Working on it.
SRPM is nearly ready. (Had to redo most of it...)

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[Thomas Davis]

Post by Patrick Steiner
hi,
now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.
i have build it via sources and it works fine.
more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/

Yes, but it has a small bug. That version will not properly display
service names (run kbluemon, and compare it to a sdptool browse).

I have a fix for it, and plan to send it off today when I figure out who
to send it to.

thomas

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Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Patrick Steiner
hi,
now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.
i have build it via sources and it works fine.
more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/

Yes, but it has a small bug. That version will not properly display
service names (run kbluemon, and compare it to a sdptool browse).
I have a fix for it, and plan to send it off today when I figure out who
to send it to.

http://liste.ferrara.linux.it/listinfo/kde-bluetooth

-- Rex

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Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Patrick Steiner
hi,
now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.
i have build it via sources and it works fine.
more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/

Yes, but it has a small bug. That version will not properly display
service names (run kbluemon, and compare it to a sdptool browse).
I have a fix for it, and plan to send it off today when I figure out who
to send it to.
thomas

If you have a patch, please send it to me and I'll add it to the next
SRPM.

- Gilboa


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Post by Gilboa Davara

Post by Thomas Davis

Post by Patrick Steiner
hi,
now there is a new kdebluetooth version 1.0 beta3.
i have build it via sources and it works fine.
more infos can be found here. http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/

Yes, but it has a small bug. That version will not properly display
service names (run kbluemon, and compare it to a sdptool browse).
I have a fix for it, and plan to send it off today when I figure out who
to send it to.
thomas

If you have a patch, please send it to me and I'll add it to the next
SRPM.
- Gilboa

see attached.

thomas