KDE Bug 126182 IMAP filters

[Eli Wapniarski]

Hey Rex

There's talk on the bug list at kde that distros have started to
revert to kmail 1.9.6 in kde 3.5.7 to work around the problem.

Is there any chance that you will do the same. I've got a real whole
lot of email stuck in my inbox that I would like to finally put to bed.

Thanks Eli
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Eli Wapniarski
There's talk on the bug list at kde that distros have started to
revert to kmail 1.9.6 in kde 3.5.7 to work around the problem.
Is there any chance that you will do the same. I've got a real whole
lot of email stuck in my inbox that I would like to finally put to bed.

We're working to switch to using the kdepim enterprise branch (which
also has the bug fixed).

-- Rex


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[Anthony J. H. M. Meijer]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Eli Wapniarski
There's talk on the bug list at kde that distros have started to
revert to kmail 1.9.6 in kde 3.5.7 to work around the problem.
Is there any chance that you will do the same. I've got a real whole
lot of email stuck in my inbox that I would like to finally put to bed.

We're working to switch to using the kdepim enterprise branch (which
also has the bug fixed).
-- Rex

Does that have the HTML forward bug fixed as well ? (The one I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago)

Anthony
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Anthony J. H. M. Meijer

Post by Rex Dieter
We're working to switch to using the kdepim enterprise branch (which
also has the bug fixed).

...

Post by Anthony J. H. M. Meijer
Does that have the HTML forward bug fixed as well ? (The one I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago)

dunno. Only one way to find out... :)

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[Eli Wapniarski]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Eli Wapniarski
There's talk on the bug list at kde that distros have started to
revert to kmail 1.9.6 in kde 3.5.7 to work around the problem.
Is there any chance that you will do the same. I've got a real whole
lot of email stuck in my inbox that I would like to finally put to bed.

We're working to switch to using the kdepim enterprise branch (which
also has the bug fixed).

Very cool and thanks.

Eli
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Eli Wapniarski
There's talk on the bug list at kde that distros have started to
revert to kmail 1.9.6 in kde 3.5.7 to work around the problem.
Is there any chance that you will do the same. I've got a real whole
lot of email stuck in my inbox that I would like to finally put to bed.

We're working to switch to using the kdepim enterprise branch (which
also has the bug fixed).

Brave souls can try out kdepim-3.5.7-8.20070920.714749.ent currently in
kde-redhat/unstable repo, which is the 20070920 (svn_r714749) snapshot
of the kdepim-enterprise branch.

One quick thing I already noticed is that upstream disabled display of
most individual apps in the K menu, opt'ing for folks to use kontact
instead as the gateway into most/all pim apps. Hmm... not sure if I
agree with that.

-- Rex

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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Rex Dieter
One quick thing I already noticed is that upstream disabled display of
most individual apps in the K menu, opt'ing for folks to use kontact
instead as the gateway into most/all pim apps.

OK, I'm blind (not enough coffee yet this morning, clearly), the other
items seem to be all there afterall. ugh.

-- Rex


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[José Matos]

Post by Rex Dieter
Brave souls can try out kdepim-3.5.7-8.20070920.714749.ent currently in
kde-redhat/unstable repo, which is the 20070920 (svn_r714749) snapshot
of the kdepim-enterprise branch.

I am using it and don't have anything to report. :-)
I think this is good. :-)

[José Matos]

Post by Rex Dieter
Brave souls can try out kdepim-3.5.7-8.20070920.714749.ent currently in
kde-redhat/unstable repo, which is the 20070920 (svn_r714749) snapshot
of the kdepim-enterprise branch.
One quick thing I already noticed is that upstream disabled display of
most individual apps in the K menu, opt'ing for folks to use kontact
instead as the gateway into most/all pim apps.  Hmm... not sure if I
agree with that.

After several days of work I have noticed several improvements regarding the
previous kmail (embedded in kontact).

The only problem I have noticed is that kmail takes a long time to start and
also a long time to shut down (although less than the former).

It seems that it is scanning all the messages either in the local folder as
well as in the imap server that I use. Since I have Gigs of email it takes
more than a couple of minutes.

Other than this I am quite happy with the improvements.

Post by Rex Dieter
-- Rex

[Rex Dieter]

Post by José Matos
After several days of work I have noticed several improvements regarding the
previous kmail (embedded in kontact).

Thanks for all the feedback, sounds like we have a winner.

This has been imported into fedora rawhide, and will appear in future
fedora kdepim builds, starting with fedora 8 test3. And if by f8-final
we see no show-stoppers, will likely push an f7-update for this too.

-- Rex

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[José Matos]

Post by Rex Dieter
This has been imported into fedora rawhide, and will appear in future
fedora kdepim builds, starting with fedora 8 test3.  And if by f8-final
we see no show-stoppers, will likely push an f7-update for this too.

Another minor issue that I found is that although basket-kontact is
installed basket does not show as an option inside kontact, before this was
working.

Not a big problem as it can be called outside. :-)

Post by Rex Dieter
-- Rex

[Graeme Nichols]

Rex, will this new version of KDEPIM & Kmail work with X509 certificates?
The current KDEPIM (3.5.7-3.fc7) does not work with X509 certificates. When
receiving an email signed with an X509 certificate the certificate/keys are
not imported into the application automatically as happens with Thunderbird
et.al. which means that encrypting to the sender will not work (I also have
the latest gnupg2 for F7 installed (gnupg2-2.0.6-2.fc7) but the combination
does not work as reported above. gpgsm, part of gnupg2, also does not import
X509 certificates in *.p12 format either but will in the form <email
address>.crt. I don't know if that is part of the problem. Please correct me
if I have this all wrong.

Regards,

Graeme.

Post by José Matos

Post by José Matos
After several days of work I have noticed several improvements

regarding the

Post by José Matos
previous kmail (embedded in kontact).

Thanks for all the feedback, sounds like we have a winner.
This has been imported into fedora rawhide, and will appear in future
fedora kdepim builds, starting with fedora 8 test3. And if by f8-final
we see no show-stoppers, will likely push an f7-update for this too.
-- Rex
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Graeme Nichols
Rex, will this new version of KDEPIM & Kmail work with X509
certificates? The current KDEPIM (3.5.7-3.fc7) does not work with X509
certificates. When receiving an email signed with an X509 certificate
the certificate/keys are not imported into the application
automatically as happens with Thunderbird et.al <http://et.al>. which
means that encrypting to the sender will not work (I also have the
latest gnupg2 for F7 installed (gnupg2-2.0.6-2.fc7) but the
combination does not work as reported above. gpgsm, part of gnupg2,
also does not import X509 certificates in *.p12 format either but will
in the form <email address>.crt. I don't know if that is part of the
problem. Please correct me if I have this all wrong.

I can't confirm/deny, I've never used x509 certs. Please file the issue
@ bugzilla.redhat.com against Fedora/kdepim

-- Rex

[Rex Dieter]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Graeme Nichols
Rex, will this new version of KDEPIM & Kmail work with X509
certificates? The current KDEPIM (3.5.7-3.fc7) does not work with
X509 certificates. When receiving an email signed with an X509
certificate the certificate/keys are not imported into the
application automatically as happens with Thunderbird et.al
<http://et.al>. which means that encrypting to the sender will not
work (I also have the latest gnupg2 for F7 installed
(gnupg2-2.0.6-2.fc7) but the combination does not work as reported
above. gpgsm, part of gnupg2, also does not import X509 certificates
in *.p12 format either but will in the form <email address>.crt. I
don't know if that is part of the problem. Please correct me if I
have this all wrong.

I can't confirm/deny, I've never used x509 certs. Please file the

On second thought, ask on the kdepim-users ml to confirm expected behavior,
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users
and when/if bug-ness is detected, send it upstream to bugs.kde.org.

-- Rex

[Graeme Nichols]

Hello Rex,

I have managed to sort out the bug in Kmail re X509 certificates. The bug is
not in Kmail per see. It is the inability of gpgsm to import the X509
certificate and extract the key. Apparently this is well known by Werner and
confirmed by the author of the work-around. See following:

No. there are no files in the ~/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/ directory.


Obvious if the p12 file import failed and you didn't create a
certificate requests with gpgsm.

Does not work as you can see above. Is the backup of my certificate from
Mozilla in *.p12 format the same as getting it from CACert in *.p12 format?

Yes.

PKCS#12 is a weird format and it is possible that GnuPG will not be able
to parse it. However, currently I have no open bugs on this so it
should work. The error message would be different from what the one you
got.



Salam-Shalom,

Werner



There is a work-around at

http://gnupg.org/aegypten/development.en.html

Two conditions *must* be met for it to all work.

1. gpg-agent *must* be running *before* Kmail and gnupg are started.
2. The work-around *must* be followed to get the key from the X509
certificate bundle.

I hope this helps others. It has been a real struggle to get this
information. My thanks to Ingo and Andreas from the kdepim-users list for
pointing me in the right direction.

Regards,

Graeme.

Rex, will this new version of KDEPIM & Kmail work with X509 certificates?
The current KDEPIM (3.5.7-3.fc7) does not work with X509 certificates.
When receiving an email signed with an X509 certificate the certificate/keys
are not imported into the application automatically as happens with
Thunderbird et.al. which means that encrypting to the sender will not work
(I also have the latest gnupg2 for F7 installed (gnupg2-2.0.6-2.fc7) but
the combination does not work as reported above. gpgsm, part of gnupg2, also
does not import X509 certificates in *.p12 format either but will in the
form <email address>.crt. I don't know if that is part of the problem.
Please correct me if I have this all wrong.
bugzilla.redhat.com against Fedora/kdepim
On second thought, ask on the kdepim-users ml to confirm expected behavior,
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users
and when/if bug-ness is detected, send it upstream to bugs.kde.org.
-- Rex
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[Graeme Nichols]

Post by Graeme Nichols
Rex, will this new version of KDEPIM & Kmail work with X509 certificates?
The current KDEPIM (3.5.7-3.fc7) does not work with X509 certificates.
When receiving an email signed with an X509 certificate the certificate/keys
are not imported into the application automatically as happens with
Thunderbird et.al. which means that encrypting to the sender will not work
(I also have the latest gnupg2 for F7 installed (gnupg2-2.0.6-2.fc7) but
the combination does not work as reported above. gpgsm, part of gnupg2, also
does not import X509 certificates in *.p12 format either but will in the
form <email address>.crt. I don't know if that is part of the problem.
Please correct me if I have this all wrong.
bugzilla.redhat.com against Fedora/kdepim
-- Rex

OK. Thanks Rex. I will post a bug report as requested.

[Eli Wapniarski]

On Tuesday, 18 בSeptember 2007 08:12:43 Eli Wapniarski wrote:


I just got the newer kdepim installed. Thank you. Filters seem to be working
again.

Eli
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