KMail is a real mess after upgrading to KDE 4.2

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hi, people

I've just upgraded KDE to 4.2 from updates-testing and generally
speaking, I liked the upgrade. There were some minor problems, but all
in all it's good.
Kmail, however, is a real mess. The message list panel is completely
broken. The columns I had selected to be shown there and their order
were lost and all the 17 columns that can be selected to be shown were
checked, including two columns for the sender of for the recipient
depending on the selected folder, because the sender/recipient, sender
and recipent columns were all checked. But the problem is worst, because
after reconfiguring all this, I see that every time I close Kmail and
reopen it, all message list panel configuration is lost and all the 17
columns are shown again.
Also, the columns which have just icons in their contents, like the
spam/not spam, attachments, important and others, now have texts on
their headers. Theses columns are normally set to be just as wide as
necessary to the icons to be shown. With texts in their captions, only
the first letter of the header appears. This is a regression, because
until kde 4.1.4 kmail used icons on the headers of these columns.
Also, kmail does not honor font configurations for the message list
panel anymore. The configuration screen is there, but has no effect at
all.
Worst than all this is the fact that kmail does not group messages in
threads anymore. And the option to set this up is gone from the Folder
menu. I hope this is well hidden somewhere else, but I couldn't find
it... Does any one know how to setup kmail to thread messages now?
Really, a mail client that does not thread discussions is of no use for
me.

Is there a way to go back to the previous version of KMail??

Thanks,

Marcelo

[Eli Wapniarski]

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Hi, people
I've just upgraded KDE to 4.2 from updates-testing and generally
speaking, I liked the upgrade. There were some minor problems, but all
in all it's good.
Kmail, however, is a real mess. The message list panel is completely
broken. The columns I had selected to be shown there and their order
were lost and all the 17 columns that can be selected to be shown were
checked, including two columns for the sender of for the recipient
depending on the selected folder, because the sender/recipient, sender
and recipent columns were all checked. But the problem is worst, because
after reconfiguring all this, I see that every time I close Kmail and
reopen it, all message list panel configuration is lost and all the 17
columns are shown again.
Also, the columns which have just icons in their contents, like the
spam/not spam, attachments, important and others, now have texts on
their headers. Theses columns are normally set to be just as wide as
necessary to the icons to be shown. With texts in their captions, only
the first letter of the header appears. This is a regression, because
until kde 4.1.4 kmail used icons on the headers of these columns.
Also, kmail does not honor font configurations for the message list
panel anymore. The configuration screen is there, but has no effect at
all.
Worst than all this is the fact that kmail does not group messages in
threads anymore. And the option to set this up is gone from the Folder
menu. I hope this is well hidden somewhere else, but I couldn't find
it... Does any one know how to setup kmail to thread messages now?
Really, a mail client that does not thread discussions is of no use for
me.
Is there a way to go back to the previous version of KMail??
Thanks,
Marcelo

Try quiting kmail, backing up ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail and then once you have a
backup delete the original folder. Start kmail. See if that helps.

Eli

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Post by Eli Wapniarski

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Hi, people
I've just upgraded KDE to 4.2 from updates-testing and generally
speaking, I liked the upgrade. There were some minor problems, but
all in all it's good.
Kmail, however, is a real mess. The message list panel is
completely broken. The columns I had selected to be shown there and
their order were lost and all the 17 columns that can be selected
to be shown were checked, including two columns for the sender of
for the recipient depending on the selected folder, because the
sender/recipient, sender and recipent columns were all checked. But
the problem is worst, because after reconfiguring all this, I see
that every time I close Kmail and reopen it, all message list panel
configuration is lost and all the 17 columns are shown again.
Also, the columns which have just icons in their contents, like the
spam/not spam, attachments, important and others, now have texts on
their headers. Theses columns are normally set to be just as wide
as necessary to the icons to be shown. With texts in their
captions, only the first letter of the header appears. This is a
regression, because until kde 4.1.4 kmail used icons on the headers
of these columns. Also, kmail does not honor font configurations
for the message list panel anymore. The configuration screen is
there, but has no effect at all.
Worst than all this is the fact that kmail does not group messages
in threads anymore. And the option to set this up is gone from the
Folder menu. I hope this is well hidden somewhere else, but I
couldn't find it... Does any one know how to setup kmail to thread
messages now? Really, a mail client that does not thread
discussions is of no use for me.
Is there a way to go back to the previous version of KMail??
Thanks,
Marcelo

Try quiting kmail, backing up ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail and then once
you have a backup delete the original folder. Start kmail. See if
that helps.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried it, but did not help...
However, at least the threading problem is solved, I found the
configuration for that in the little buttons to the right of the look up
field above the messages list. This was the worst problem for me, I can
live with the rest for a while.

Thanks,

Marcelo

[Eli Wapniarski]

Oh... Just noticed.

This mailing list has moved. You should probably subscribe to the fedora-kde
mailing list over at.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde

Eli

[Rex Dieter]

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Oh... Just noticed.
This mailing list has moved.

Hrm... I *thought* I had essentially disabled this list, but apparently not.
I'll go try hitting it with a bigger hammer.

Post by Eli Wapniarski

Post by Eli Wapniarski
You should probably subscribe to the

fedora-kde mailing list over at.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kde

+1

-- Rex

[Anne Wilson]

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Hi, people
I've just upgraded KDE to 4.2 from updates-testing and generally
speaking, I liked the upgrade. There were some minor problems, but all
in all it's good.
Kmail, however, is a real mess. The message list panel is completely
broken. The columns I had selected to be shown there and their order
were lost and all the 17 columns that can be selected to be shown were
checked, including two columns for the sender of for the recipient
depending on the selected folder, because the sender/recipient, sender
and recipent columns were all checked. But the problem is worst, because
after reconfiguring all this, I see that every time I close Kmail and
reopen it, all message list panel configuration is lost and all the 17
columns are shown again.

I've only seen this problem once, and can't reproduce it, so I don't know what
caused your problem.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Also, the columns which have just icons in their contents, like the
spam/not spam, attachments, important and others, now have texts on
their headers. Theses columns are normally set to be just as wide as
necessary to the icons to be shown. With texts in their captions, only
the first letter of the header appears.

I don't use these, so don't know, but I'll see if I can find any way to deal
with that problem.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
This is a regression, because
until kde 4.1.4 kmail used icons on the headers of these columns.
Also, kmail does not honor font configurations for the message list
panel anymore. The configuration screen is there, but has no effect at
all.

I did have to fiddle around a bit to find how to get every last bit of KDE text
to the size I wanted, but it's working correctly now. As far as I can
remember, the problem is that some of the sections use settings from Configure
KMail, and some things use font settings from SystemSettings >Appearance.
I've been away a couple of days, and I'm not yet tuned in, but if you don't
find it I'll try to help you.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Worst than all this is the fact that kmail does not group messages in
threads anymore. And the option to set this up is gone from the Folder
menu. I hope this is well hidden somewhere else, but I couldn't find
it... Does any one know how to setup kmail to thread messages now?
Really, a mail client that does not thread discussions is of no use for
me.

Yes, that threw me at first :-) Near the filter panel you have a set of new
icons. The second from the left looks a bit like a newspaper page - that's
the Aggregation icon. Set it to Activity by Date, Threaded. Take a look,
while you're there, on the additional options under Configure, particularly the
tab Groups, Threads and Sorting

Anne

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Post by Anne Wilson

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Hi, people
I've just upgraded KDE to 4.2 from updates-testing and generally
speaking, I liked the upgrade. There were some minor problems, but
all in all it's good.
Kmail, however, is a real mess. The message list panel is
completely broken. The columns I had selected to be shown there and
their order were lost and all the 17 columns that can be selected
to be shown were checked, including two columns for the sender of
for the recipient depending on the selected folder, because the
sender/recipient, sender and recipent columns were all checked. But
the problem is worst, because after reconfiguring all this, I see
that every time I close Kmail and reopen it, all message list panel
configuration is lost and all the 17 columns are shown again.

I've only seen this problem once, and can't reproduce it, so I don't
know what caused your problem.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Also, the columns which have just icons in their contents, like the
spam/not spam, attachments, important and others, now have texts on
their headers. Theses columns are normally set to be just as wide
as necessary to the icons to be shown. With texts in their
captions, only the first letter of the header appears.

I don't use these, so don't know, but I'll see if I can find any way
to deal with that problem.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
This is a regression, because
until kde 4.1.4 kmail used icons on the headers of these columns.
Also, kmail does not honor font configurations for the message list
panel anymore. The configuration screen is there, but has no effect
at all.

I did have to fiddle around a bit to find how to get every last bit
of KDE text to the size I wanted, but it's working correctly now. As
far as I can remember, the problem is that some of the sections use
settings from Configure KMail, and some things use font settings from
SystemSettings >Appearance. I've been away a couple of days, and I'm
not yet tuned in, but if you don't find it I'll try to help you.

Post by Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Worst than all this is the fact that kmail does not group messages
in threads anymore. And the option to set this up is gone from the
Folder menu. I hope this is well hidden somewhere else, but I
couldn't find it... Does any one know how to setup kmail to thread
messages now? Really, a mail client that does not thread
discussions is of no use for me.

Yes, that threw me at first :-) Near the filter panel you have a set
of new icons. The second from the left looks a bit like a newspaper
page - that's the Aggregation icon. Set it to Activity by Date,
Threaded. Take a look, while you're there, on the additional options
under Configure, particularly the tab Groups, Threads and Sorting

Thanks for you help, Anne. I've reported the two first issues in KDE's
bugzilla. The third one was already reported, I'm monitoring the bug.
This last, about threading, wasn't a bug at all, as you said :)
It was a relief to find out kmail still can thread correctly! :)

Thanks,

Marcelo