I broke it! :(

[Kris Deugau]

After finding this repository while trying to get kopete to connect to a
local SSL Jabber server, I've largely left the KDE packages alone.

Mostly CentOS 4.5 stock (Perl and a few command-line dev tools from
RPMForge); AFAIK none of the core X/KDE/Linux-desktop packages have
been replaced except for those from the kde-redhat repo.

While doing some other updates, I re-enabled the "core" repo and updated
a number of components from version 3.5.4-8.0.el4 (a few appear to have
been -10.0.el4) to 3.5.6-4.el4.

Bad idea. (I should know better than to mess with third-party Linux
desktop packages by now; every time I do something breaks. :/ )

Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost
a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down
or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that
were supposed to start on login, didn't. I don't appear to be able to
host multiple local X sessions, either; when my current session is
locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from
the "unlock session" dialog.

In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working
packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that
were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just
about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons
for active minimized windows don't seem to be present any more. The
"External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another
chunk of screen space.

Can anyone point out places I might look to correct these behaviour
changes? Is it worth reporting any of these changes as bugs? This was
a minor-version upgrade (3.5.4-8.0.el4 -> 3.5.6-4.el4); IMO it should
have been absolutely transparent.

-kgd

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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Kris Deugau
Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost
a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down
or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that
were supposed to start on login, didn't. I don't appear to be able to
host multiple local X sessions, either; when my current session is
locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from
the "unlock session" dialog.

You probably don't have
kdebase-kdm
installed.
(In retrospect, probably a bad idea I split that into a separate package)

Post by Kris Deugau
In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working
packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that
were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just
about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons
for active minimized windows don't seem to be present any more. The
"External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another
chunk of screen space.

dunno about this part.

-- Rex

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[Kris Deugau]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Kris Deugau
Immediately after the "upgrade", the login screen appeared to have lost
a number of options, I no longer had any option to shut the system down
or restart it from the "Log Out" button or menu option, and things that
were supposed to start on login, didn't. I don't appear to be able to
host multiple local X sessions, either; when my current session is
locked, I no longer have the option of starting a new login session from
the "unlock session" dialog.

You probably don't have
kdebase-kdm
installed.

I didn't. Installed and rebooted (simply restarting X didn't seem to
pick up the change); sessions appear to be working, and kdm is now the
login manager. Thanks!

Post by Rex Dieter
(In retrospect, probably a bad idea I split that into a separate package)

<g> Been there, shot my foot off. More than once. <sigh>

Well, as long as it's brought in on dependencies it should be fine.
Maybe a dependency in kdebase? (I don't know what the full relationship
tree looks like for the KDE packages.) It's not strictly *necessary*;
I was able to log on and off without trouble. I just couldn't switch to
a new session, or shut down/reboot from either the log on or log off
dialogs.

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by Kris Deugau
In the process of trying to either revert to the previous working
packages or find and fix the configuration files for the components that
were no longer working the same way (or at all), I've recovered just
about everything within an active desktop session, but taskbar buttons
for active minimized windows don't seem to be present any more. The
"External Taskbar panel seems to be working, but it's sucking up another
chunk of screen space.

dunno about this part.

I managed to fix this myself after some more fiddling. FWIW, it seems
that somewhere along the line I managed to eliminate ALL of the applets
from the default panel. O_o I swear I have no idea how I managed to do
that, although flipping back and forth between versions of KDE
components probably contributed. (I also discovered that the system
tray, clock, taskbar, desktop-switcher, and a handful of other things
are considered panel applets, and my missing taskbar was, in fact, a
missing taskbar applet. <g>)

-kgd

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