Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3

[Laurent Rineau]

***@tsetse ~ $ rpm -q kdemultimedia-extras kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-2.fc6
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6

yum debug output:
19:23:03 : Preparing for install/remove/update
19:23:03 : --> Preparing for install
19:23:03 : --> Preparing for remove
19:23:03 : --> Preparing for a full update
19:23:16 : --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
19:23:18 : ---> Package kdemultimedia-extras.i386 6:3.5.6-4.fc6 set to be
updated
19:23:18 : --> Running transaction check
19:23:19 : --> Processing Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
19:23:19 : --> Finished Dependency Resolution


I do not know exactly which package is wrong, in that conflict. They seem to
come both from kde-redhat.

[Rex Dieter]

kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-2.fc6
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6

...

19:23:19 : --> Processing Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
19:23:19 : --> Finished Dependency Resolution
I do not know exactly which package is wrong, in that conflict. They seem
to come both from kde-redhat.

See also
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237

In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.

Long version: kde-redhat's and livna's kdemm-extras-nonfree pkgs
inadvertantly forked awhile back (I thought I was tracking livna's version
closely). Unfortunately, I missed that livna's dropped Epoch(6). So while
the Conflicts worked for kde-redhat's packaging, it did *not* for livna's.

-- Rex



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[JP Renaud]

Hi,

Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
See also
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.

I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and restart
again?
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by JP Renaud

Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
See also
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.

I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and restart
again?

Error please?

-- Rex

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[JP Renaud]

Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007

Post by JP Renaud

Date: Wednesday 07 Mar 2007
See also
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.

I still get the conflict today. Do I need to remove the non-free and
restart again?

Error please?

Odd, it's an actual file conflict.

Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by JP Renaud
Odd, it's an actual file conflict.
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6

Try:

$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras

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[JP Renaud]

Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras

it worked, thanks.

what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to resolve
by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I wonder what
goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that automagically?

(1) although i should really have done that myself before posting but I'd just
read a similar thread and Rex usually answers so quickly :-)
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by JP Renaud

Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras

it worked, thanks.
what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to resolve
by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I wonder what
goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that automagically?

I recently moved a few things from -extras-nonfree -> -extras which was
the real source of conflict. The other monkey-wrench here was that
kde-redhat's local copy/fork of livna's kdemultmedia-extras-nonfree
erroneously had
Epoch: 6
whereas livna's packaging had no Epoch.

What that means is that The Epoch'd packages would *always* trump
non-Epoch'd ones, even if %version is higher, ie,

kde-redhat's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1 was being treated as
newer than livna's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-3

to try to mitigate this, I've removed kdemultimedia-extras-* rpms from
kde-redhat repo, but that doesn't help folks who already have it
installed (ie, you needed to manually uninstall it).

I'm currently working the livna's maintainer to try to find a better
solution that "just works" for everybody.

-- Rex

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[JP Renaud]

Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007

Post by JP Renaud

Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras

it worked, thanks.
what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to
resolve by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I
wonder what goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that
automagically?

I recently moved a few things from -extras-nonfree -> -extras which was
the real source of conflict. The other monkey-wrench here was that
kde-redhat's local copy/fork of livna's kdemultmedia-extras-nonfree
erroneously had
Epoch: 6
whereas livna's packaging had no Epoch.
What that means is that The Epoch'd packages would *always* trump
non-Epoch'd ones, even if %version is higher, ie,
kde-redhat's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1 was being treated as
newer than livna's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-3
to try to mitigate this, I've removed kdemultimedia-extras-* rpms from
kde-redhat repo, but that doesn't help folks who already have it
installed (ie, you needed to manually uninstall it).
I'm currently working the livna's maintainer to try to find a better
solution that "just works" for everybody.

thanks for the explanation Rex.
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[Rex Dieter]

Post by Rex Dieter
I'm currently working the livna's maintainer to try to find a better
solution that "just works" for everybody.

OK, just committed this change to livna's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
pkg so that it matched kde-redhat's Epoch (and description):

%changelog
* Thu Mar 08 2007 Rex Dieter <rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net> - 6:3.5.6-4
- +Epoch:6, there's pkgs in the wild already *with* Epoch. Yes, Epoch's
suck, my bad, but at least no kittens were harmed.
- update %description

Fixed packages should show up in the next day or two.

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[Davide Bolcioni]

Post by Rex Dieter

kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-2.fc6
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6

...

19:23:19 : --> Processing Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
19:23:19 : --> Finished Dependency Resolution
I do not know exactly which package is wrong, in that conflict. They seem
to come both from kde-redhat.

See also
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/231237
In short, I was a dumba?? for putting in a broken Conflicts tag.
Long version: kde-redhat's and livna's kdemm-extras-nonfree pkgs
inadvertantly forked awhile back (I thought I was tracking livna's version
closely). Unfortunately, I missed that livna's dropped Epoch(6). So while
the Conflicts worked for kde-redhat's packaging, it did *not* for livna's.

It seems something is not quite right yet ...

Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6

Should I report this ... where ?

Davide Bolcioni

[Rex Dieter]

Post by Davide Bolcioni
It seems something is not quite right yet ...
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
Should I report this ... where ?

Try:

$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras

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