CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2

Discussion:

George Galt

2008-05-21 15:56:46 UTC

I've hunted through the archives and various places on the web to see
if KDE 4.0.2 can be installed in a CentOS 5.1 i386 system, but so far
little luck. I'm assuming that it is not yet available for CentOS in
RPM form. The best I have found are some instructions on installing
it from source, but it required an upgrade of the kernel as there was
some concern that kdenetwork-4.0.1 would fail to compile on kernels
prior to 2.6.20 (CentOS 5 is on 2.6.18). I'd rather not change
kernels (and if anyone has ideas on this, please let me know).

Is there any plan for KDE 4 on CentOS through kde-redhat? If you need
any help, can I provide some assistance (testing, building, etc.)?

Thanks,

George

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Rex Dieter

2008-05-21 16:30:10 UTC

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Post by George Galt
I've hunted through the archives and various places on the web to see
if KDE 4.0.2 can be installed in a CentOS 5.1 i386 system, but so far
little luck. I'm assuming that it is not yet available for CentOS in
RPM form. The best I have found are some instructions on installing
it from source, but it required an upgrade of the kernel as there was
some concern that kdenetwork-4.0.1 would fail to compile on kernels
prior to 2.6.20 (CentOS 5 is on 2.6.18). I'd rather not change
kernels (and if anyone has ideas on this, please let me know).
Is there any plan for KDE 4 on CentOS through kde-redhat? If you need
any help, can I provide some assistance (testing, building, etc.)?

No immediate plans.

CentOS5 is missing a *lot* of dependencies, but could be doable with
good helping of time and effort.

Maybe when kde-4.1 hits the streets, I'll personally revisit this and
see how to make it happen.

-- Rex

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George Galt

2008-05-21 16:56:17 UTC

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Post by Rex Dieter

No immediate plans.
CentOS5 is missing a *lot* of dependencies, but could be doable with
good helping of time and effort.
Maybe when kde-4.1 hits the streets, I'll personally revisit this and
see how to make it happen.
-- Rex
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Rex:

Thanks. I've got a laptop with CentOS 5.1 on it that I can blow-up if
necessary. I'll try the source/kernel route and see what happens.

George

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George Galt

2008-05-28 13:38:38 UTC

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Post by Rex Dieter

No immediate plans.
CentOS5 is missing a *lot* of dependencies, but could be doable with
good helping of time and effort.
Maybe when kde-4.1 hits the streets, I'll personally revisit this and
see how to make it happen.
-- Rex
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Rex:

FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
stock CentOS 5.1 system. I just got it put together yesterday, so I
haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)? I'm happy to provide a list
of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
you might need. Let me know.

George

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Rex Dieter

2008-05-28 18:43:35 UTC

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Post by George Galt
FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
stock CentOS 5.1 system. I just got it put together yesterday, so I
haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)? I'm happy to provide a list
of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
you might need. Let me know.

Awesome.

Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
as any gotchas you encountered.

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George Galt

2008-05-28 20:11:55 UTC

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Awesome.
Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
as any gotchas you encountered.
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Rex:

I'll get my notes together tonight and see if I can't post something.
It was reasonably straight forward, so this shouldn't be too
difficult.

George

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George Galt

2008-05-29 02:28:03 UTC

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Post by Rex Dieter

Awesome.
Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
as any gotchas you encountered.
-- Rex
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I'll get my notes together tonight and see if I can't post something.
It was reasonably straight forward, so this shouldn't be too
difficult.
George

Rex:

I worked off of this page for the most part:
http://www.go2linux.org/forums/installing-kde-4-on-centos-t-7.html,
but I ignored the first poster's instruction as he had little success.
Instead, I used the instructions provided by the second poster
("newuser" ). I initially downloaded and compiled a new kernel, but I
didn't install it figuring I would try with the latest CentOS kernel
(2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 is what I'm running). I set up a user and
environment to build kde as described here:
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4, in
particular, the .bashrc modification listed here:
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc.
I made a few of the changes suggested by "newuser" in the go2linux
forum post (above).

Next, I compiled and installed Qt4.4 from Trolltech per their
instructions. Nothing unusual here.

I then installed the suggested rpms via yum: yum install
clucene-core-devel libxml-devel libxslt-devel \
dbus-devel boost-devel bzip2-devel openssl-devel alsa-lib-devel \
redland-devel rasqal-devel raptor-devel hspell-devel aspell-devel \
cups-devel xine-lib-devel avahi-devel gamin-devel OpenEXR-devel \
enchant-devel jasper-devel ilmbase-devel pcre-devel gpgme-devel \
libxklavier-devel glib-devel libusb-devel libsmbclient-devel \
libxcb-devel NetworkManager-devel lm_sensors-devel libraw1394-devel \
bluez-libs-devel gcc-c++ libXext-devel cmake subversion giflib-devel \
libpng-devel libXdamage-devel libXcomposite-devel libXrender-devel \
fontconfig-devel libXft-devel libXcursor-devel libXfixes-devel \
ruby-devel libXScrnSaver-devel libkdcraw-devel exiv2-devel \
lcms-devel libtiff-devel sqlite-devel libxkbfile-devel \
imlib2-devel patch gstreamer-plugins-base-devel

Next, I installed clucene from Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/clucene/ (FYI, the above yum command
included clucene, but it isn't available).
Then Strigi from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/strigi/
Finally qimageblitz from Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qimageblitz/

Then, I downloaded kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase from the 4.0.4
branches subversion server (FYI, strigi and qimageblitz also appear to
be available in kdesupport, which I did not build)
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdelibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdepimlibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebase

compiled and installed in user land (not as root). It seems to work
well, though I'm missing several menu items (the most painful being
for System Settings, but I can simply run it from the command line,
I'll look into rebuilding the menus later).

I'll try reinstalling as root, though it doesn't seem to be necessary
at this stage.

So far, no real issues, though I haven't really pushed the system
much. I'll play with it for a few days and let you know if anything
unusual comes up.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

George

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George Galt

2008-05-30 01:53:02 UTC

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Post by Rex Dieter

Awesome.
Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
as any gotchas you encountered.
-- Rex
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I'll get my notes together tonight and see if I can't post something.
It was reasonably straight forward, so this shouldn't be too
difficult.
George

http://www.go2linux.org/forums/installing-kde-4-on-centos-t-7.html,
but I ignored the first poster's instruction as he had little success.
Instead, I used the instructions provided by the second poster
("newuser" ). I initially downloaded and compiled a new kernel, but I
didn't install it figuring I would try with the latest CentOS kernel
(2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 is what I'm running). I set up a user and
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4, in
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc.
I made a few of the changes suggested by "newuser" in the go2linux
forum post (above).
Next, I compiled and installed Qt4.4 from Trolltech per their
instructions. Nothing unusual here.
I then installed the suggested rpms via yum: yum install
clucene-core-devel libxml-devel libxslt-devel \
dbus-devel boost-devel bzip2-devel openssl-devel alsa-lib-devel \
redland-devel rasqal-devel raptor-devel hspell-devel aspell-devel \
cups-devel xine-lib-devel avahi-devel gamin-devel OpenEXR-devel \
enchant-devel jasper-devel ilmbase-devel pcre-devel gpgme-devel \
libxklavier-devel glib-devel libusb-devel libsmbclient-devel \
libxcb-devel NetworkManager-devel lm_sensors-devel libraw1394-devel \
bluez-libs-devel gcc-c++ libXext-devel cmake subversion giflib-devel \
libpng-devel libXdamage-devel libXcomposite-devel libXrender-devel \
fontconfig-devel libXft-devel libXcursor-devel libXfixes-devel \
ruby-devel libXScrnSaver-devel libkdcraw-devel exiv2-devel \
lcms-devel libtiff-devel sqlite-devel libxkbfile-devel \
imlib2-devel patch gstreamer-plugins-base-devel
http://sourceforge.net/projects/clucene/ (FYI, the above yum command
included clucene, but it isn't available).
Then Strigi from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/strigi/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qimageblitz/
Then, I downloaded kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase from the 4.0.4
branches subversion server (FYI, strigi and qimageblitz also appear to
be available in kdesupport, which I did not build)
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdelibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdepimlibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebase
compiled and installed in user land (not as root). It seems to work
well, though I'm missing several menu items (the most painful being
for System Settings, but I can simply run it from the command line,
I'll look into rebuilding the menus later).
I'll try reinstalling as root, though it doesn't seem to be necessary
at this stage.
So far, no real issues, though I haven't really pushed the system
much. I'll play with it for a few days and let you know if anything
unusual comes up.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
George

Rex:

Sorry to reply to myself, but this is just to let you know that I
finished installing the rest of KDE 4.0.4 today. The files installed
were:

svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdeutils
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdenetwork
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdeadmin
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdeartwork
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebindings
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdeedu
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdegames
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdegraphics
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdemultimedia
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdetoys
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdewebdev
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdesdk
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdeaccessibility

The only hitch was that kdebindings had to be installed as root
because it wanted to write some files to the directory where python is
located (I believe /usr/lib/python2.4). There were several modules
that stated that some functionality was not being installed due to
missing files (things like libraries to handle a wider range of
archive files), but nothing that prohibited a successful compile and
install. If you want me to go back and try to recreate what optional
files were missed, I can do that -- sorry I didn't catch it the first
time around.

George

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