Discussion:
KDE 4.1
Mark Bidewell
2008-08-02 13:24:52 UTC
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First off, after installing the latest KDE...all I can say is WOW. Two
notes:

1) When using a deskop theme such as silicon klipper and KMix retain their
black background.
2) When I turn on Desktop Effects I notice that my CPU speed fluctuates
pretty often when using the ondemand governor. This is kind of a surprise
as I thought the GPU handled a large portion of the effects.

Has anyone else seen this?
Mark Bidewell
Colin J Thomson
2008-08-03 21:41:00 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Mark Bidewell
First off, after installing the latest KDE...all I can say is WOW.
+1
Post by Mark Bidewell
1) When using a deskop theme such as silicon klipper and KMix retain their
black background.
There are on going issues with the panel, I don't have the bug numbers to
hand. For more info you could search plasma-dev/plasma-bugs.
Post by Mark Bidewell
2) When I turn on Desktop Effects I notice that my CPU speed fluctuates
pretty often when using the ondemand governor. This is kind of a surprise
as I thought the GPU handled a large portion of the effects.
I can't help here, what is the ondemand governor?

Cheers

Colin
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Mark Bidewell
2008-08-04 00:54:16 UTC
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Post by Colin J Thomson
Hi,
Post by Mark Bidewell
First off, after installing the latest KDE...all I can say is WOW.
+1
Post by Mark Bidewell
1) When using a deskop theme such as silicon klipper and KMix retain
their
Post by Mark Bidewell
black background.
There are on going issues with the panel, I don't have the bug numbers to
hand. For more info you could search plasma-dev/plasma-bugs.
Post by Mark Bidewell
2) When I turn on Desktop Effects I notice that my CPU speed fluctuates
pretty often when using the ondemand governor. This is kind of a
surprise
Post by Mark Bidewell
as I thought the GPU handled a large portion of the effects.
I can't help here, what is the ondemand governor?
Cheers
Colin
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The ondemand governor is the cpufreq controller for automatically adjusting
CPU speed with process demand. What I am seeing is one core alternating
between full speed and half speed. Doing a watch "cat /proc/cpuinfo" will
show the varying speeds. This would indicate brief periods of high usage.
When desktop effects are off both cores stay at low speed.

On another note, any ETA for the ability to add laucher buttons for
applications to the panel/desktop?

Thanks.
Mark Bidewell
Rex Dieter
2008-08-04 01:06:14 UTC
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Post by Mark Bidewell
On another note, any ETA for the ability to add laucher buttons for
applications to the panel/desktop?
The ability to right click an item in kickoff, and "Add to Panel" or
"Add to Desktop" or "Add to Favorites" has been in kde-4.0 since day 1.

Or are you asking about something else?

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Florian Sievert
2008-08-04 07:57:48 UTC
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Hi Mark,
Post by Mark Bidewell
On another note, any ETA for the ability to add laucher buttons for
applications to the panel/desktop?
The function is already there, if you use the context menu withhin
kickoff. However it is often quite irritating, you have to unlock
widgets on your desktop. before this options will appear.

Best Regards,
Florian

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Colin J Thomson
2008-08-04 17:00:03 UTC
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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the ondemand governor info.
Post by Florian Sievert
Post by Mark Bidewell
On another note, any ETA for the ability to add laucher buttons for
applications to the panel/desktop?
The function is already there, if you use the context menu withhin
kickoff. However it is often quite irritating, you have to unlock
widgets on your desktop. before this options will appear.
This is correct, however if the Widgets are locked as Florian wrote all you
will be able to do is "add to favourites" Not sure if this was intended or not
and it took me a while to work it out.

Cheers

Colin
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kwhiskerz
2008-08-04 18:03:37 UTC
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Any chance we can get kipi-plugins back? The official ones don't work with the
kde-redhat digikam.
Rex Dieter
2008-08-04 18:08:47 UTC
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Post by kwhiskerz
Any chance we can get kipi-plugins back? The official ones don't work
with the kde-redhat digikam.
There is no kde4 kipi-plugins (yet). Hope to have this resolved in time
for F-10 tho.

-- Rex

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kwhiskerz
2008-08-04 18:39:51 UTC
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Post by Rex Dieter
Post by kwhiskerz
Any chance we can get kipi-plugins back? The official ones don't work
with the kde-redhat digikam.
There is no kde4 kipi-plugins (yet). Hope to have this resolved in time
for F-10 tho.
-- Rex
I noticed that you have a version in kde-testing dated 29.jul.08 but it
depends on libkcal.so.2, which is apparently unavailable.
Rex Dieter
2008-08-04 18:49:31 UTC
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Post by kwhiskerz
Post by kwhiskerz
Any chance we can get kipi-plugins back? The official ones don't work
with the kde-redhat digikam.
There is no kde4 kipi-plugins (yet). Hope to have this resolved in time
for F-10 tho.
I noticed that you have a version in kde-testing dated 29.jul.08 but it
depends on libkcal.so.2, which is apparently unavailable.
It's available from kdepim-libs-3.5.x. If you're using kdepim(4) from
unstable, you're out of luck, for now. (at least until I come up with a
better way of addressing this).

kipi-plugins-0.1.x only works with digikam-0.9 (kde3), I assumed you
were talking about digikam-0.10 (for kde4), sorry. I'd been working on
that lately.

-- Rex

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kwhiskerz
2008-08-04 21:08:37 UTC
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Post by Rex Dieter
Post by kwhiskerz
I noticed that you have a version in kde-testing dated 29.jul.08 but it
depends on libkcal.so.2, which is apparently unavailable.
It's available from kdepim-libs-3.5.x. If you're using kdepim(4) from
unstable, you're out of luck, for now. (at least until I come up with a
better way of addressing this).
kipi-plugins-0.1.x only works with digikam-0.9 (kde3), I assumed you
were talking about digikam-0.10 (for kde4), sorry. I'd been working on
that lately.
-- Rex
I'm confused about the digikam versions you mention. I have enabled kde-
unstable and kde-testing repos and I presume that's where I got
digikam-0.9.4-2.fc9.i386 and the associated libkdcraw et al that I have
installed, but kipi-plugins, although it also is in kde-stable, does not work
with those.

I can wait for kipi-plugins. No panic.

While I mention the repos, I still have to use kde-unstable and kde-testing,
don't I? There was some discussion about kde 4.1 now being in fedora testing,
I think, so I don't have a clue where I'm downloading it from. Also, I noticed
that in apt.kde-redhat.org, the 4.1 packages have moved from development to
the fedora 9 directories. Do I need to adjust my kde.repo file, or will yum
automatically find the new position of the 4.1 packages, when using kde-redhat?
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