KDE 4.0.2

Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Mark Bidewell

Colin J Thomson

2008-03-09 16:57:39 UTC

Post by Mark Bidewell
Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Its in Rawhide, so soon hopefully :-)

Cheers

Colin

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Rex Dieter

2008-03-17 16:55:05 UTC

Post by Mark Bidewell
Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Its in Rawhide, so soon hopefully :-)

building today (finally), to trickle into f8/unstable repos in a bit.

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Colin J Thomson

2008-03-17 20:12:03 UTC

Post by Mark Bidewell
Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Its in Rawhide, so soon hopefully :-)

building today (finally), to trickle into f8/unstable repos in a bit.

Excellent :) I have a slight problem though :

Transaction Check Error:
file /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/actions/kalarm.png conflicts between
attempted installs of kdeartwork-icons-crystalsvg-4.0.2-1.fc8.i386 and
kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386

Snip...

kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386 is in F8 updates I think, I can't see kdepim-3.5.9 in
the unstable repo.

Or perhaps I am a little quick off the mark?

Cheers

Colin

Rex Dieter

2008-03-17 20:47:08 UTC

Post by Mark Bidewell
Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Its in Rawhide, so soon hopefully :-)

building today (finally), to trickle into f8/unstable repos in a bit.

file /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/actions/kalarm.png conflicts between
attempted installs of kdeartwork-icons-crystalsvg-4.0.2-1.fc8.i386 and
kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386
Snip...
kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386 is in F8 updates I think, I can't see kdepim-3.5.9 in
the unstable repo.
Or perhaps I am a little quick off the mark?

Nope, that's legit, fixed kdepim build going now.

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Colin J Thomson

2008-03-18 18:41:15 UTC

Post by Mark Bidewell
Is there any ETA for KDE 4.0.2 into the repo?

Its in Rawhide, so soon hopefully :-)

building today (finally), to trickle into f8/unstable repos in a bit.

file /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/actions/kalarm.png conflicts
between attempted installs of
kdeartwork-icons-crystalsvg-4.0.2-1.fc8.i386 and kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386
Snip...
kdepim-3.5.9-6.fc8.i386 is in F8 updates I think, I can't see
kdepim-3.5.9 in the unstable repo.
Or perhaps I am a little quick off the mark?

Nope, that's legit, fixed kdepim build going now.

Ok, everything updated fine, first noticeable improvement is no Plasma crash
at start up :-)

Thanks to all involved

Colin

Eli Wapniarski

2008-03-18 19:51:24 UTC

Hi Rex

I tried 4.0.2 and unfortunately I had to immediately downgrade back to 3.5.9.
Sorry about that. I really do appreciate the work you and the team is putting
into this.

While I did notice some improvements compared to 4.0 They were not sufficient
for me to stick with it.

Problems include the panel included with Plasmaa and the icons on the desktop
confined to only one desktop of my dual screen. The ability to resize the
panel points to the eventual realization of the obvious potential of kde4.

The other problem that I encountered immediately is that Konqueror is getting
slower and slower when it comes to dealing with Java script and it seems not
to be able to handle flash plugins at all. This of course is on an x86_64
platform that relies on nspluginviewer for flash.

Anyway. I guess I really will have to wait for 4.1

I'm trully sorry that I cannot be genuinely helpful in the process.

Eli
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Rex Dieter

2008-03-18 20:08:54 UTC

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Problems include the panel included with Plasmaa and the icons on the desktop
confined to only one desktop of my dual screen. The ability to resize the
panel points to the eventual realization of the obvious potential of kde4.

Odd(?), I can resize my panel now just fine. Just tried, was pleasantly
surprised, must've been a feature added only recently. Wee! :)

multi-screen setups are still broken in places, due mostly to X/driver
bugs (read up on aseigo's blog recently for the gory details).

Post by Eli Wapniarski
The other problem that I encountered immediately is that Konqueror is getting
slower and slower when it comes to dealing with Java script and it seems not
to be able to handle flash plugins at all. This of course is on an x86_64
platform that relies on nspluginviewer for flash.

True, konq/x86_64 + nspluginviewer still = boom I think.

lappy upgrading atm, I'll confirm that in a bit.

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Colin J Thomson

2008-03-18 21:21:54 UTC

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Problems include the panel included with Plasmaa and the icons on the
desktop confined to only one desktop of my dual screen. The ability to
resize the panel points to the eventual realization of the obvious
potential of kde4.

Odd(?), I can resize my panel now just fine. Just tried, was pleasantly
surprised, must've been a feature added only recently. Wee! :)

Yep, I was also pleased to see this return :)

FYI Konq now works fine on my network as does Dolphin now... excellent! Good
to see Konsole back in the context menu.
The Email plasmoid I built on 4.0.1 works no problem so no need rebuild it :)

Kget still seems to just sit there and not d/load anything, I'm trying to find
the bug report on this on kde.bugs can anyone confirm this?

Somethings I miss are the Show Desktop widget and a Trash widget, I believe
these maybe in playground or extragear? I'll do some digging around.

Anyway very impressed with all the fixes etc.

F8, KDE-4.0.2

Cheers

Colin

Eli Wapniarski

2008-03-19 04:57:38 UTC

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Problems include the panel included with Plasmaa and the icons on the
desktop confined to only one desktop of my dual screen. The ability to
resize the panel points to the eventual realization of the obvious
potential of kde4.

Odd(?), I can resize my panel now just fine. Just tried, was pleasantly
surprised, must've been a feature added only recently. Wee! :)

I guess I didn't make myself clear about this one. My panel indeed can be
resiszed.

Oh, one other thing that I forgot to mention. Icons on the desktop, even
though I can choose the size of the icons on the desktop. They always remain
at 48 pixels. I like 32 pixels. Oh well

Post by Rex Dieter
multi-screen setups are still broken in places, due mostly to X/driver
bugs (read up on aseigo's blog recently for the gory details).

I just read the blog. The blog seems to indicate that the problem is with kde4
itself. Not X drivers. It seems that kde4 simply made an oversight when
programming "struts" in plasma and it would take some major reprogramming to
get it to work. I hope that this will work properly in 4.1 because if it
doesn't then what, by the time fedora 10 comes around I will be forced to
work with a "crippled" KDE desktop or ugh Gnome. Both seem to be unsavory.

Post by Eli Wapniarski
The other problem that I encountered immediately is that Konqueror is
getting slower and slower when it comes to dealing with Java script and
it seems not to be able to handle flash plugins at all. This of course is
on an x86_64 platform that relies on nspluginviewer for flash.

True, konq/x86_64 + nspluginviewer still = boom I think.

Seems to work as well as Konqueror is working these days in 3.5.9.

Eli
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José Matos

2008-03-19 06:59:33 UTC

Post by Eli Wapniarski
Oh, one other thing that I forgot to mention. Icons on the desktop, even
though I can choose the size of the icons on the desktop. They always
remain at 48 pixels. I like 32 pixels. Oh well

Are you sure it is not possible to change directly in the configuration files?
The size of the panel was configurable directly in 4.0.1 and only in 4.0.2 it
had a graphical configuration.

I am just guessing here, I have no idea if that is possible or not.

Post by Eli Wapniarski

Post by Rex Dieter
multi-screen setups are still broken in places, due mostly to X/driver
bugs (read up on aseigo's blog recently for the gory details).

As far I understand from reading Aaron's blog and the freedesktop.org page
struts are defined in the window manager standard. So the problem is neither
at xorg level or at kde4 level but instead it is intermediate. The fact that
all the window manager follow the same protocol allows us to replace them
easily.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html
http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html

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Rex Dieter

2008-03-19 14:48:48 UTC