Discussion:
updates and kde-redhat on FC6?
Tim Wunder
2007-06-29 13:55:00 UTC
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Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that this
update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?

<quote>
Updating:
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 8.8 M
kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 1.2 M
kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.8 M
kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 11 M
kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.7 M
kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 29 M
kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8 M
kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8 M
</quote>


Thanks,
Tim
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JP Renaud
2007-06-29 14:00:52 UTC
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Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that
this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 8.8
M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 1.2
M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.8
M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 11
M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.7
M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 29
M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8
M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8
M </quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list) that
are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In particular,
kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
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Tim Wunder
2007-06-29 14:18:48 UTC
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Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that
this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 7.8 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 3.8 M </quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list)
that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In
particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be packages
that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at 3.5.6 (even
including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.

Tim
--
Fedora Core release 6 (Zod), Linux 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6
KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc6 Fedora
10:15:01 up 29 days, 2:22, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.09
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts" John Wooden
JP Renaud
2007-06-29 19:53:17 UTC
Permalink
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
7.8 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
3.8 M </quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your list)
that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat stable. In
particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be packages
that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at 3.5.6 (even
including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via "updates"
for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that normal? I have
launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes before doing the
workstation.
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Tim Wunder
2007-06-29 20:01:14 UTC
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Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8 M
kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8 M
</quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your
list) that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat
stable. In particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be
packages that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at
3.5.6 (even including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via
"updates" for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that normal?
I have launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes before doing
the workstation.
Than Ngo uploaded kde 3.5.7 packages for FC6 to fedora updates this past
Wednesday (according to the Fedora Updates mailing list). AFAIK, the
kde-redhat packaged bits of KDE 3.5.7 are still in testing. So if you don't
have testing enabled, the updates you see to KDE 3.5.7 are coming from
Fedora, and not kde-redhat. Now for Fedora 7, there's almost no difference
(as I understand things) between Fedora's KDE and kde-redhat's, but I'm not
sure that's true with FC6 (which I'm using).

Let's hope Rex chimes in and clarifies what's going on...

Regards,
Tim
--
Fedora Core release 6 (Zod), Linux 2.6.20-1.2952.fc6
KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc6 Fedora
15:55:01 up 29 days, 8:02, 2 users, load average: 0.49, 0.27, 0.15
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JP Renaud
2007-06-29 20:25:03 UTC
Permalink
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE
3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I
assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are
installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 29 M
kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8 M
kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8 M
</quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your
list) that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat
stable. In particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be
packages that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has at
3.5.6 (even including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via
"updates" for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that
normal? I have launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes
before doing the workstation.
Than Ngo uploaded kde 3.5.7 packages for FC6 to fedora updates this past
Wednesday (according to the Fedora Updates mailing list). AFAIK, the
kde-redhat packaged bits of KDE 3.5.7 are still in testing. So if you don't
have testing enabled, the updates you see to KDE 3.5.7 are coming from
Fedora, and not kde-redhat. Now for Fedora 7, there's almost no difference
(as I understand things) between Fedora's KDE and kde-redhat's, but I'm not
sure that's true with FC6 (which I'm using).
Actually, the update just failed with loads of conflicts problems. I was on
tty1 and can't actually copy the list right now but will do tomorrow.
Let's hope Rex chimes in and clarifies what's going on...
Regards,
Tim
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JP Renaud
2007-07-02 12:53:32 UTC
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Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Post by JP Renaud
Date: Friday 29 Jun 2007
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some
KDE 3.5.7 packages are coming from updates. Is this intended?
Should I assume that this update won't break the kde-redhat bits
that are installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
8.8 M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates
1.2 M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 5.8 M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 11 M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 5.7 M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 29 M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 7.8 M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6
updates 3.8 M </quote>
Wait a bit and try again. I have more 3.5.7 packages (than in your
list) that are listed by yum update right now on FC6, kde-redhat
stable. In particular, kdebase, kdedesk, kdepim ...
I have KDE 3.5.7 bits from kde-redhat testing. These appear to be
packages that updates has updated to 3.5.7 but kde-redhat still has
at 3.5.6 (even including the testing repo). My guess is they're fine.
Actually, it looks like the whole of kde is going to be updated via
"updates" for those (like me) who run "kde-redhat stable". Is that
normal? I have launched it from the laptop, waiting to see how it goes
before doing the workstation.
Than Ngo uploaded kde 3.5.7 packages for FC6 to fedora updates this past
Wednesday (according to the Fedora Updates mailing list). AFAIK, the
kde-redhat packaged bits of KDE 3.5.7 are still in testing. So if you
don't have testing enabled, the updates you see to KDE 3.5.7 are coming
from Fedora, and not kde-redhat. Now for Fedora 7, there's almost no
difference (as I understand things) between Fedora's KDE and
kde-redhat's, but I'm not sure that's true with FC6 (which I'm using).
Actually, the update just failed with loads of conflicts problems. I was on
tty1 and can't actually copy the list right now but will do tomorrow.
Just FYI, I re-started yum update today and it all went fine.
Let's hope Rex chimes in and clarifies what's going on...
Regards,
Tim
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Tim Wunder
2007-07-10 03:06:46 UTC
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Post by Tim Wunder
Just doing a routine 'sudo yum update' and it appears that some KDE 3.5.7
packages are coming from updates. Is this intended? Should I assume that
this update won't break the kde-redhat bits that are installed?
<quote>
kdeaccessibility i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 8.8
M kdeadmin i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 1.2
M kdeartwork i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.8
M kdeartwork-icons i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 11
M kdebindings i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 5.7
M kdeedu i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 29
M kdegraphics i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 7.8
M kdeutils i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 updates 3.8
M </quote>
Well, whatever these updates did, ultimately it seems to have cause X to crash
upon exit for me.

I now have (on FC6):
$ yum list installed kde*
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Installed Packages
kde-filesystem.noarch 3.5-6 installed
kde-settings.noarch 3.5-18.fc6 installed
kde-settings-kdm.noarch 3.5-18.fc6 installed
kdeaccessibility.i386 1:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdeaddons.i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdeadmin.i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdeartwork.i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdeartwork-extras.i386 3.5.6-3.fc6 installed
kdeartwork-icons.i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdeartwork-kxs.i386 3.5.6-3.fc6 installed
kdebase.i386 6:3.5.7-5.fc6 installed
kdebindings.i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdebindings-dcopperl.i386 3.5.6-1.fc6 installed
kdeedu.i386 3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdegames.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdegraphics.i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdegraphics-extras.i386 3.5.6-1.fc6 installed
kdelibs.i386 6:3.5.7-8.fc6 installed
kdelibs-devel.i386 6:3.5.7-8.fc6 installed
kdemultimedia.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdemultimedia-extras.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree.i386 6:3.5.6-5.lvn6 installed
kdenetwork.i386 7:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed
kdepim.i386 6:3.5.7-2.fc6 installed
kdetoys.i386 7:3.5.6-3.fc6 installed
kdeutils.i386 6:3.5.7-1.fc6 installed

When I log out of KDE, X (or possibly just kdm) crashes and I'm sent to a
console login. When I switch runlevels to 3 and back to 5 (telinit 3; telinit
5) kdm comes back up and I can log into KDE normally.

Any ideas what's wrong?

Tim
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KDE: 3.5.7-8.fc6 Fedora
23:00:01 up 9 min, 3 users, load average: 0.38, 0.34, 0.23
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Tim Wunder
2007-07-11 01:28:04 UTC
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On Monday 09 July 2007 11:06:46 pm Tim Wunder wrote:
<snip>
Post by Tim Wunder
When I log out of KDE, X (or possibly just kdm) crashes and I'm sent to a
console login. When I switch runlevels to 3 and back to 5 (telinit 3;
telinit 5) kdm comes back up and I can log into KDE normally.
Any ideas what's wrong?
Upgradig the nvidia driver to the current (100.14.11) seems to have solved the
problem.

Sorry for the noise...

Tim
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